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      — In Budget101_@yahoogroups.com, Brandon Skinner

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      > Tonight my wife and two kids went to Carl’s Jr for dinner, making a

      last minute decision to eat in.

      >

      > The night started off great as the cashiers were nice enough to

      bring dinner to us where we sat and made sure that we had ketchup and

      the whole 9 yards. A little while later, a group of guys came in.

      There were about 5 or 6 of them with two girls. The sat down pretty

      near us, only divided by a partition wall maybe as tall as my waste.

      Needless to say, we could hear every word, which normally wouldn’t

      bother us as people are obnoxious all the time. Unfortunately they

      were dropping the f-bomb every five seconds and were pretty loud and

      really vulgar otherwise.

      >

      > My son in 21 months old. Hes repeating EVERYTHING. Hes started

      telling us don’t before we can tell him don’t. He started saying sit

      before we tell him to and pronounces our dogs name Bella to

      perfection. I couldn’t just sit there and let them keep talking like

      this in front of my son and even in front of us. Last thing I need is

      my son calling out in a dead quiet congregation at church the f-bomb

      as the speaker gives the public talk.

      >

      > So, I walked over the partition, very kindly said, “I don’t mean to

      bother you, but my son is 20 months old, can you please watch the

      language?” and the guy sitting directly in front of me

      said, “Alright, man”

      >

      > As I turned around to sit down some of the guys started making

      comments, “I don’t f****ing care.” I thought they were just being

      smart and would stop, but it started getting worse, so, my wife and I

      got the kids, she wrapped up her food and we left.

      >

      > We were SHOCKED to see two other families who had small children

      and watched me request they watch their language, leave with us. One

      of the dads came over to me and said, “I guess they come in all

      types, probably drunk, don’t let them get to you” implying that we

      should not let it ruin our night. They clearly left due to the guys

      being so vulgar, their little girl kept turning around and smiling

      and giggling at Kaden. It was nice to have a perfect stranger walk up

      and respect my attempts and decision to leave.

      >

      > What is with kids these days? I mean, I’ll be 22 in January and

      just don’t have such disregard for people. I mean, these guys were my

      age and a couple years older. I understand they are going to be

      vulgar and nasty and obnoxious, but even before I had kids, when I

      had a nasty mouth, had anyone asked me not to because of their kids i

      would have immediately apologized and changed my language. i just

      can’t believe they had such a complete disregard for anyone sharing

      the same air they believe and with kids at that!

      >

      > should i have got the manager involved? should i had said anything

      else, or just left like i did? its sad that we can’t enjoy a nice

      dinner at a restaurant, and we shouldn’t have to leave early to avoid

      such an environment.

      >

      > then again, maybe i’m too sensitive. yesterday my wife and i went

      to macy’s for some clothes and while pushing the stroller around some

      3 or 4 year kid in a stroller took one of those toy black guns with

      the orange plastic piece and pointed it at my son and said “Bang!

      Bang!”.. I was livid. I know he didn’t know but what the heck is the

      parent thinking??? Why would she allow him to even play with one,

      especially if he doesn’t know not to point it at people and make such

      gestures. I circled back around to cross paths again and was going to

      tell him, “no! we don’t point that at people!” but my wife said, lets

      just go hunny, though she admitted she wanted to comment to the mom.

      >

      > am i being overly sensitive? it really does seem like a moral

      degrade as the generations go by…. are these parents even trying to

      raise their kids decently?

      >

      > sorry this was so long! suggestions/comments welcome.

      >

      > brandon skinner

      brandon,

      number one, you are not being overly sensitive. number two, you

      should have gotten the manager involved.

      as a matter of federal law in the united states, businesses are to

      protect their employees and customers from “sexual

      harassment”, “hostile environment”, and “distrubing the peace” among

      other things. (sexual harassment comes into play in that the word

      f**k is a slang terms for intercourse. once you asked the offending

      group not to use that word in the presence of your family, their

      continuing to use it is a form of verbal sexual harassment. verbal

      sexual harassment is still sexual harassment.) the manager should

      have gotten the the offending group to stop being vulgar and

      obnoxious or have them removed from the establishment. you and the

      other families should not have been the one to have to leave. the

      manager also should have apologized for what your family and others

      were subjected to and possibly given some compensation for what you

      experienced.

      betty (in mn)

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