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— In Budget101_@yahoogroups.com, Brandon Skinner
wrote:
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> Tonight my wife and two kids went to Carl’s Jr for dinner, making a
last minute decision to eat in.
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> The night started off great as the cashiers were nice enough to
bring dinner to us where we sat and made sure that we had ketchup and
the whole 9 yards. A little while later, a group of guys came in.
There were about 5 or 6 of them with two girls. The sat down pretty
near us, only divided by a partition wall maybe as tall as my waste.
Needless to say, we could hear every word, which normally wouldn’t
bother us as people are obnoxious all the time. Unfortunately they
were dropping the f-bomb every five seconds and were pretty loud and
really vulgar otherwise.
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> My son in 21 months old. Hes repeating EVERYTHING. Hes started
telling us don’t before we can tell him don’t. He started saying sit
before we tell him to and pronounces our dogs name Bella to
perfection. I couldn’t just sit there and let them keep talking like
this in front of my son and even in front of us. Last thing I need is
my son calling out in a dead quiet congregation at church the f-bomb
as the speaker gives the public talk.
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> So, I walked over the partition, very kindly said, “I don’t mean to
bother you, but my son is 20 months old, can you please watch the
language?” and the guy sitting directly in front of me
said, “Alright, man”
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> As I turned around to sit down some of the guys started making
comments, “I don’t f****ing care.” I thought they were just being
smart and would stop, but it started getting worse, so, my wife and I
got the kids, she wrapped up her food and we left.
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> We were SHOCKED to see two other families who had small children
and watched me request they watch their language, leave with us. One
of the dads came over to me and said, “I guess they come in all
types, probably drunk, don’t let them get to you” implying that we
should not let it ruin our night. They clearly left due to the guys
being so vulgar, their little girl kept turning around and smiling
and giggling at Kaden. It was nice to have a perfect stranger walk up
and respect my attempts and decision to leave.
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> What is with kids these days? I mean, I’ll be 22 in January and
just don’t have such disregard for people. I mean, these guys were my
age and a couple years older. I understand they are going to be
vulgar and nasty and obnoxious, but even before I had kids, when I
had a nasty mouth, had anyone asked me not to because of their kids i
would have immediately apologized and changed my language. i just
can’t believe they had such a complete disregard for anyone sharing
the same air they believe and with kids at that!
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> should i have got the manager involved? should i had said anything
else, or just left like i did? its sad that we can’t enjoy a nice
dinner at a restaurant, and we shouldn’t have to leave early to avoid
such an environment.
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> then again, maybe i’m too sensitive. yesterday my wife and i went
to macy’s for some clothes and while pushing the stroller around some
3 or 4 year kid in a stroller took one of those toy black guns with
the orange plastic piece and pointed it at my son and said “Bang!
Bang!”.. I was livid. I know he didn’t know but what the heck is the
parent thinking??? Why would she allow him to even play with one,
especially if he doesn’t know not to point it at people and make such
gestures. I circled back around to cross paths again and was going to
tell him, “no! we don’t point that at people!” but my wife said, lets
just go hunny, though she admitted she wanted to comment to the mom.
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> am i being overly sensitive? it really does seem like a moral
degrade as the generations go by…. are these parents even trying to
raise their kids decently?
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> sorry this was so long! suggestions/comments welcome.
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> brandon skinner
brandon,
number one, you are not being overly sensitive. number two, you
should have gotten the manager involved.
as a matter of federal law in the united states, businesses are to
protect their employees and customers from “sexual
harassment”, “hostile environment”, and “distrubing the peace” among
other things. (sexual harassment comes into play in that the word
f**k is a slang terms for intercourse. once you asked the offending
group not to use that word in the presence of your family, their
continuing to use it is a form of verbal sexual harassment. verbal
sexual harassment is still sexual harassment.) the manager should
have gotten the the offending group to stop being vulgar and
obnoxious or have them removed from the establishment. you and the
other families should not have been the one to have to leave. the
manager also should have apologized for what your family and others
were subjected to and possibly given some compensation for what you
experienced.
betty (in mn)
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