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    • #262311

      Hi,
      I’m just curious if anyone has fertility problems? I’m not trying to be nosy or anything.
      My story?….I’m 36 and have pcos (causing ovulation problems) and have severe tubal damage due to pid (pelvic inflammatory diesease). i was diagnosed with clymedia in my early 20’s which lead to the PID which of course led to the damaged tubes.

      Been trying to conceive for about 12 years now. I’ve gone to an re and have used repronex, follistim, and a hcg “trigger” shot. i’ve been able to ovulate using the meds but due to the tubal damage, no pregnancy.

      it’s been mentioned that ivf is my only option due to the severity of damage to my tubes. have passed on that option for the time being. i have stopped all forms of infertility treatments but still receiving treatment for the pcos–metformin and provera to regulate menstrual cycle.

      michelle

    • #398212

      I dont know This is one area I havent seemed to have issues with, but my heart really goes out to you. My cousin went through the same thing, PID and severe scarring. Have you looked into alternative therapies (Like acupuncture?) I know that really worked well for her because the meds they put her on had made her so sick.

      She said lots of times the side effects were worse than the disease.

      Sorry I’m not much help.

    • #398223

      Hi Tracy,
      I’ve looked into and tried energy healing while I was doing treatment. I know there are herbs that can help but with the meds, didn’t want to risk anything. The side effects weren’t too bad for me except when I first started with clomid.

      Thank goodness the clomid didn’t work for me so I didn’t have to take it for very many cycles.

    • #413553

      Im really sorry that you are going through this. I do, Identify with you on a small scale, though.

      I have PCOS, insulin resistance, hypothyroidism, and Secondary infertility.
      I have 10 years between my kids because when my oldest was 5, we couldnt conceive. It wasnt until 2006 that We did the Clomid. I did 3 rounds (2@50 and 1 @ 100mg) and conceived our youngest.

      We TTCd again when she was 3 months old, and was not successful. We did 7 more rounds (3 more @100, 3 at 150 and 1 at 200mg) and with the last one we did iui and trigger. no pregnancy.

      we ttcd a total of 16 months this last time before we determined that our family is complete. I did so many rounds because I did have a break (with child birth) so they let me do 7 more.

      I used to take Metformin (1700mg/day) because of my type 2, but my A1c is fine.
      I still take my Thyroid meds to regulate that.

      I do understand what you are going through. ((hugs)) You are not alone. you can Pm me if you want to talk.

    • #413597

      Yep been there.

      I am a DES daughter so my uterus doesn’t stretch. I went through a total of 6 miscarriages before menopause (see below). I had told the specialist (he of the “it won’t hurt”) I was crushing kids, and he called me hysterical.

      He later (#7) agreed.

      Went into menopause officially at 28, prior 3 years were a variety of tests etc (*I ‘told” him i was in menopause but he didn’t believe me). lovely tests like blowing out tubes – he of couse said it wouldn’t hurt ha. every month for those 3 years I had a mini D & C again with the it won’t hurt (with des the cervic won’t open so everything hurt) i learned to drug up before drs appt.

      then they tried to make me ovulate lots of drugs, most pretty expensive – a few times i had to buy off base at $50 a day for 10days. Did meds for about 5 years ending early 30’s – nada

      We ended up adopting through the foster care program.

      Late late 30’s I got pregnant (#7) and lost it, then directly got pregnant with Jake. There was enough pregnancy hormone from #7 plus Jakes that the uterus stretched a little. I still looked like something from an alien sci fi flic, you could see heads, shoulders, butt standing up, laying down you could see arms and legs too – very very weird.

      Ended up being a high risk pregnancy because of my history of miscarriages & strokes (I started early aging for some reason – thats the guess of the Drs , menopause, strokes starting at 11-12 etc etc)

      He was a 10 month pregnancy (my sister has 10 monthers too (all 4) and hers all needed to be in incubators, and had respiratory issues – our easy bake ovens are on low – apparently)

      we adopted 4 of the 5

      OH a few years ago, Bonnie my dd, ended up with cysts on ovary so she had 2 periods a month 10 days each, bleed through in 45 mins .. I started my periods AGAIN. I was not thrilled since I always had cramps and liked my menopause.

      It had been abaout 16-17 years since Jake was born. Jake hit 20 last month and I am still going back through the perimenopause again second time bah humbug — bonnie moved out about a yr & half ago, after having the cysts finally taken out.

      ria

    • #413628

      I stopped counting at 18 miscarriages. I didn’t have PCOS but had a twisted uterus. After 12 years of trying at the worst time it could of happened I did get pregnant and carried.

      dh had lost his job and so had everyone else and i had to quit when i got pregnant. it was really bad. my dh would go glean corn fields after they were harvested so we could have something to eat.

      we made it and right before our son was born dh got called back to work so everything worked out. had another one 3 years later and another 5 years after that and then 4 years later the twins and that was the end due to complications. But 5 beautiful gifts from God is more than I ever dreamed possible!

      We would of adopted and had applied to do so but got our own instead. We would of had a dozen if we could of but it wasn’t to be. Either way is good.

      If you can’t have your own then take what the Lord blesses you with. A child who has no parents can be the greatest blessing you ever received!

    • #413631

      if you were born late 40’s, 50’s and into the early 60’s your mom could have taken des .. des causes issues with des daughter’s reproductive parts .. also some findings on increased issues of cancer on des grandkids including the boys

      ria

    • #413674
      hslinks;105790 wrote:
      Yep been there.

      I am a DES daughter so my uterus doesn’t stretch. I went through a total of 6 miscarriages before menopause (see below). I had told the specialist (he of the “it won’t hurt”) I was crushing kids, and he called me hysterical.

      He later (#7) agreed.

      Went into menopause officially at 28, prior 3 years were a variety of tests etc (*I ‘told” him i was in menopause but he didn’t believe me). lovely tests like blowing out tubes – he of couse said it wouldn’t hurt ha. every month for those 3 years I had a mini D & C again with the it won’t hurt (with des the cervic won’t open so everything hurt) i learned to drug up before drs appt.

      then they tried to make me ovulate lots of drugs, most pretty expensive – a few times i had to buy off base at $50 a day for 10days. Did meds for about 5 years ending early 30’s – nada

      We ended up adopting through the foster care program.

      Late late 30’s I got pregnant (#7) and lost it, then directly got pregnant with Jake. There was enough pregnancy hormone from #7 plus Jakes that the uterus stretched a little. I still looked like something from an alien sci fi flic, you could see heads, shoulders, butt standing up, laying down you could see arms and legs too – very very weird.

      Ended up being a high risk pregnancy because of my history of miscarriages & strokes (I started early aging for some reason – thats the guess of the Drs , menopause, strokes starting at 11-12 etc etc)

      He was a 10 month pregnancy (my sister has 10 monthers too (all 4) and hers all needed to be in incubators, and had respiratory issues – our easy bake ovens are on low – apparently)

      we adopted 4 of the 5

      OH a few years ago, Bonnie my dd, ended up with cysts on ovary so she had 2 periods a month 10 days each, bleed through in 45 mins .. I started my periods AGAIN. I was not thrilled since I always had cramps and liked my menopause.

      It had been abaout 16-17 years since Jake was born. Jake hit 20 last month and I am still going back through the perimenopause again second time bah humbug — bonnie moved out about a yr & half ago, after having the cysts finally taken out.

      ria

      ria, im sorry for your loss and for what you went through. :heart:

      brchbell;105834 wrote:
      I stopped counting at 18 miscarriages. I didn’t have PCOS but had a twisted uterus. After 12 years of trying at the worst time it could of happened I did get pregnant and carried.

      dh had lost his job and so had everyone else and i had to quit when i got pregnant. it was really bad. my dh would go glean corn fields after they were harvested so we could have something to eat.

      we made it and right before our son was born dh got called back to work so everything worked out. had another one 3 years later and another 5 years after that and then 4 years later the twins and that was the end due to complications. But 5 beautiful gifts from God is more than I ever dreamed possible!

      We would of adopted and had applied to do so but got our own instead. We would of had a dozen if we could of but it wasn’t to be. Either way is good.

      If you can’t have your own then take what the Lord blesses you with. A child who has no parents can be the greatest blessing you ever received!

      i really admire you.

      hslinks;105839 wrote:
      if you were born late 40’s, 50’s and into the early 60’s your mom could have taken des .. des causes issues with des daughter’s reproductive parts .. also some findings on increased issues of cancer on des grandkids including the boys

      ria

      i have heard of that. ((hugs))

      i lost a child before my oldest to still birth at 22 weeks, so I know the loss.

      It doesnt matter if they are an egg, an embryo, a fetus, or a baby… any loss is hard. I cant imagine more than 1 loss.

      God Bless you ladies.

    • #413680

      Thanks for the heads up about the DES issue. My Mom and our Doctor both passed away when I was only 20 so I don’t know much. But me and my siblings were born between 1947-1954 so a good chance we are involved.

      I tried to get my records but they were all destroyed a year after our doctor died.

    • #413752

      I had a hysterectomy at the age of 15 because of tumors and cysts. One cyst on my right ovary weighed over five pounds alone! I went through menopause before I hit 16.

      Physically, I haven’t gone through what y’all have – mentally, it’s been hell. But, hubby and I have adopted a little girl (after losing five babies which is a whole other story on torture). We’re gearing up for another adoption….hopefully, soon.

      FYI – I’m now 40.

    • #413783

      adoption:
      reality is using foreign adoptions has as much likelyhood of issues of fas, mental health issues etc. many from russia have rad as well, since they are in the state run orphanages, many are horrible (but you don’t get to see that)

      we adopted through dhs (each state has its own particular letters, some it’s cps).

      some advantages:
      if you do ‘long term foster care’ you have first dibs on adopting that child. this gives you a chance to find out if the child fits in with your exsisting family.

      generally there is not a language issue to cope with

      definately cheaper than foreign adoptions. since the state has tpr’d (termination of parental rights) there is no fear of the adoption of falling through because the parents changed their minds or some sort of legal manuvering. (i don’t know if you remember the rash of parents loosing their children to the bio families maybe 20 years ago)

      There are state adoptions as well as out of state adoptions. They have a giant notebook with pics and info on the other kids from other states (I thought it was sorta weird, like the old Sears catalog of kids)

      Adoption with assistance – take it. this can be the medical card and some cash.

      generally there are more issues with adoption today than there was 40+ years ago, kids have more mental health issues because bio-mom drank and sometimes did drugs too.
      Cash can be used for extra people in the house, gun safes for sharps, meds, purses, etc, repairs of house, other security equipement, special foods because of food issues, supplements and vitamins (my bill for the 2 littles was 75 a month), ot/pt equipment for the kids in the house and outside (i made a lot of the ot/pt stuff, but still bought the mini tramps (6 of them), full size on etc)..

      Because of the various issues Matt had, if I used a baby sitter he was double the cost per hour. I rarely used a baby sitter, instead I trained people to deal with Bonnies health issues and Matt’s mental health issues. Sometimes you had to have another person onsite if matt was loosing it, you had to be able to keep him safe and the other kids too.

      the medical card covers medical, ot/pt, speech, therapy etc better than most insurances.

      bert’s insurance had the cavate that preexisisting was not covered so bonnie’s health issues were not covered by his insurance. his pysch coverage was $1000 a year, Matt went through almost that a month with meds and appts. His stays in psych wards were astronomical.

      the big downside:
      you have to deal with dhs, as long as you are a foster parent. some of them are good, but they burn out fast, others are horrible, and treat you like you are causing the issues. once the adoption is final they are usually out of your life

      fas:
      drinking causes fas (fetal alcohol syndrome) getting the diagnosis is tough at times, but it can cause everything from mental retardation (my dd, 22) to severe mental health issues (my middle son, M age 23). My oldest 38, Norman is the closest to normal and only has minor issues, but it took his second wife to get him on the right road (she keeps him balanced), Mike is 36 and was a doll growing up but predisposed to alcohol and drug abuse (bio father, bio mother, bio gps etc), his first wife got him into drugs and alcohol, the second one wasn’t much better – it has only been the last few years that he has become straight

      RAD:
      Reactive attachment disorder .. it sucks to put it mildly
      Bonnie my 22 has it in milder form, unfortunately her bio half Matt (23) has it again on the extreme end (he’s a sociopath)

      There are some great support groups on line – I wish I had them when the kids were younger.

      Ria

    • #413814

      Ria, very good adoption advice. Our first daughter was adopted domestically through Catholic Social Services. Very inexpensive and quick.

      Foreign adoption is just too costly for us. This time around, we’re working with another private agency that is partnered with the state (Olive Crest in Tacoma, WA).

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