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      On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:51 PM, R NORTH <> wrote:

      a lot of kids who are ADHD are skinny anyway because they burn up
      calories like crazy .. My #2 was NOT on meds and did track he thought

      nothing of running 5 miles, and putting the littles in the bike
      trailer and putting on another 20-30 miles hauling them

      if they are on meds especially stimulants their appetite is
      compromised .. it means making foods nutritionally dense .. make soup

      run through blender, then add in more veggies, meat etc

      add in supplements too ..

      sugar, food dyes, milk, wheat etc can all contribute

      Kids whose moms drank many times crave sugar (alcohol is fermented

      sugars in grains) – they tend to react quicker and nastier to sugars

      Interesting idea, I never drank tho and growing up my youngest craved sugar a lot. I had his sugar tests every other year just to be safe but it was always ok. He was a eater even on meds and was a bit heavy several years ago.

      Ritalin has been around for over 50 years, at this point the medical

      community knows about those kids, the second generation and some info
      on third generational affects of ritalin use .. Today there are lots
      of new meds they are experimenting with, just because I have kids with
      ADHD doesn't mean I want to use them as lab rats/guinea pigs for these

      new meds (who knows long term on them yet) .. My first choice would be
      ritalin because it has been around for so long

      But all kids are different and my youngest needed the long acting ones, partly due to his not being willing to take meds at school And partly cause they seemed to work much better with him. Right now he's not on anything, and really his bipolar issues are a bigger problem that the ADHD ones. But remember he's grown, also he doesn't live with me his choice. So as long as he's not living here I can't say anything about it. One thing about him coming home would be that he has to be on meds or he can't stay here. He knows that btw. My health couldn't stand it as he's always being verbal abusive when he's off of them.

      Some kids can't handle long acting meds, their stomachs don't break it down

      Some kids can't handle stimulants – experiment with strong tea or
      coffee do you see a difference in attention span? (don't expect it to
      happen in 10 mins) .. there is a non stimulant out at this time – it

      has varied results from ok to absolutely lousy on the RAD/FAS list
      That's what I do with the oldest, tho with him it's mountain dew usually as it has more caffine than the rest. He will drink hot tea once in a while if he's really hyper too.

      Many drugs wear off in short period of time and they can take an hour
      or more for some kids to even kick in .. Going up when they are
      asleep, give them a hug and meds a hour before waking for school can
      be a wonderful idea for easier mornings

      BTW I finally got diagnosised as ADHD in my 40's (back when I was a
      girl only boys had hyperactivity, not girls – times they are
      a'changing) ..

      Imagine you have a wall of 5 drawer file cabinets ..

      ALL the drawers are opened
      some drawers have files sticking out
      some have drawers wtih files sticking out, with papers sticking out of the files
      some files on the floor in stacks
      This sounds exactly like how my brain works. lol I jump from one thing to another and back. I also think faster than I type so I'll catch myself leaving out a word here or there all the time. Due to other health issues taking any meds for the ADHD isn't possible right now. I also have Fibromyalgia so mentally I'm pretty slow some days as I either was thinking to fast for the rest of me to keep up, or I can't remember anything at all.

      all of these are various thoughts running through your head, now try
      to sleep .. or do anything else .. Impossible .. With ritalin I can
      put papers back in files, put the files in the drawers and then shut
      the drawers and lock them down

      hard to focus on things you don't like, easily off track (my gf calls
      it rabbit trails)

      hyperfocus on things you do like (I am an info junkie, love to read, etc)

      need strong system in place to help organize life



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