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    Default Breadmaker flour/yeast

    Do those of you who have breadmakers know what is different about flour
    made specifically for bread machines? It costs significantly more than
    regular flour. Also yeast--the directions with the bread machine say use
    bread machine yeast.

    Is there anything you can add to regular flour to make it the equivalent
    of flour for bread machines?

    Alice
    Date: Sat Jun 7, 2003 6:57 pm
    Subject: Breadmaker flour/yeast

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    I use regular flour and regular yeast. I have heard that bread flour and
    bread machine yeast makes "better" bread, but the bread I make turns out
    just fine w/o it.

    I can't imagine what you could do to flour, other than mill it differently
    (finer or coarser).

    From: "DH" <canyon_rat>
    Date: Sat Jun 7, 2003 10:55 pm
    Subject: RE: Budget101.com : Breadmaker flour/yeast

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    I have to agree...I use reg. flour and active dry yeast, and bread
    turns out fine for me...but then again I try to stay away from
    recipes that call for bread machine flour and yeast...there are so
    many recipes out there without it...jodi

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    Jodi,what is your best source for bread recipes for breadmachine?
    Alice

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    Alice,

    Here's how "The Bread Machine Cookbook" by Donna Rathmell German defines the
    flours.

    "All Purpose Flour: A blend of hard and soft weats that may be used for a
    variety of baking needs including breads and cakes. All purpose loses many
    of its natural vitamins and nutrients during the milling process. Hence, it
    is usually "enriched" by replacing 4 of those nutrients: iron, thiamine,
    riboflavin and niacin. Bleached all purpose flour is chemically whitened
    while unbleached flour is allowed to whiten naturally.

    Bread Flour: The recommended flour for most of the recipes in this book.
    It is derived from hard wheat, meaning it is higher both in protein and
    gluten. You will find that bread flour will give you a finer grain bread.
    You may also hear this bread referred to as bromated, which is a dough
    conditioner used to enchance the gluten's development."

    Here's what it said about gluten. "While making yeast breads, you normally
    use a wheat flour base which, when kneaded, develops gluten. The gluten
    forms an elastic substance which traps the carbon dioxide released from the
    yeast. This is the key ingredient in the wheat which makes the dough rise.
    Other flours with less gluten must be mixed with wheat flour to a maximum
    ratio of 1 to 1. The higher the non- or low-gluten flour amount, the
    smaller and denser in texture your bread will be."

    OK, so there's the "science" behind it. Very simply, I was taught that
    bread flour has gluten in it, which makes your dough rise better and gives
    you a better texture. Some recipes I have call for gluten specifically,
    never more than 2 tablespoons. If you don't want to buy bread flour, I
    would think (again, I'm no expert) that you could just add some gluten to
    your machine with regular flour and get the same results. I'd add 1
    tablespoon at first and increase it or decrease it the next time as
    necessary.

    You can buy gluten at any health food store. I found it a couple of years
    ago at Wal Mart, and I still have the same box. (I use bread flour, so I
    don't need gluten often.) It's less than $3 a box, but I can't remember
    exactly how much.

    Hope this helps.

    Karla

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    Bread machine flour has a higher protein content so you are supposed to end
    up with a nicer final product. In Canada the regular all purpose flour has a
    higher protein content than that bought in the United States so it would be
    considered essentially like bread machine flour.

    I believe (but don't quote me on it) that some bread machine recipes call
    for gluten to be added to the dough (which is what a higher protein content
    results in) to give the baked bread the body it needs.

    This is my understanding of the issues after doing some reading up on it a
    couple months ago (I wanted to know the exact same thing you did so
    "researched" the answer a bit).

    Lisa B.

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    Thanks to DH, Karla, Jodi, Lisa and any I've missed on advice on bread
    machine recipes.
    I will try it with regular yeast and flour and also with added gluten and
    report back.
    Alice

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    I do a LOT of bread making at our house (typical week is three loaves of
    Italian, four of whole wheat) and personally I wouldn't think of owning a
    machine. Yes, it does take a little time to knead, etc. but no more than any
    other kitchen chore. I find kneading theraputic (much nicer than kicking the dog
    and a better work out!) Also, DW is a pizza fanatic and we have gotten our pizza
    crust recipe down to about 5 min. from pulling out the dough bowl to chunking it
    in the fridge (we generally make the dough a day in advance because it's easier
    to work and has a nicer texture if it rises slllloooowly.) Someone mentioned
    bread flour. Yes, it is higher in gluton, but in my area it's also higher in
    price. I just use AP flour with good results.

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