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    > Okay Liss now I'm really going to pick your brain. All of these
    > "homemade"
    > cures/treatments call for special ingredients which may or may not be easy
    > to find. As well as probably pretty expensive.<<<

    LOL. Most of these sound exotic, however, almost all of them can be found
    in your own backyard. I grow alot of my own herbs and make my own tinctures,
    teas, infusions, tisanes, decotions, salves, lotions, balms, etc. I love
    doing it and I have tons of stuff to work with. It's actually fairly
    inexpensive to make your own remedies. For example.. I LOVE motherwort
    tincture for PMS/Cramps.. 5 drops in a mug of tea and I'm back to my ol'
    self again. If I bought a box of "Pamprin" I'd have to take 2-3 of them to
    get them to work, wait 5 or more hours... and then worry about the side
    effects (stomach bleeding, hives, blisters, rash, etc). Not only that, but
    it's $7. for a box. I can make a bottle of tincture for less than $1.50
    (including the bottle & dropper) and it lasts up to 3 years (depending on
    the tincture). If I bought a box I'd have to buy at least 1 box every 3
    months. Not so frugal.

    >> How is doing all this yourself cheaper, easier or better than just going
    >> to the doctors and at
    > what point do you say "enough" with your family and go to the actual
    > doctor?<<

    It's 100% about your Comfort level. For me, I usually wont go unless
    something is actually broken. Actually, I have gone in for them to diagnose
    me, then I throw out the prescription and "cure" myself, lol. When it comes
    to the kids, I take them if they need it. We go to the doc when we need a
    broken bone set, x-rays, or stitches. Aside from that... they aren't much
    help. They're playing a guessing game just as much as I am, and honestly, I
    know my body a lot better than any doc that sees me every 3 or 4 years.

    I suppose I could go to the Dr and get antibiotics for strep, but, do I
    really want a yeast infection, thrush, or a host of other issues on top of a
    crappy swollen throat? Not really.

    > I'm not questioning what you are doing by any means. I'm actually playing
    > devil's advocate here. <<

    Understandable. It seems overwhelming when you start reading all of the
    information passed in the threads. I've been doing this for more than 20
    years, so it's second nature to me.

    >> I'm sure I'm not the only one who might be thinking the same thing. It
    >> seems like there is a lot of work involved in doing it yourself. Do you
    >> use everything natural or are there over the counter drugs that you use?
    >> <<

    It's really not alot of work. It takes all of 10 minutes to pick a handful
    of herbs, wash them & place them in a jar, cover them with alcohol, tighten
    the lid and turn it every other day, adding more liquid as needed. A few
    weeks later, you spend 5-10 minutes straining the mix into bottles and
    voila, you have enough medicine for family & friends for a couple years. I
    add a little more to my collection each year, some stuff that I dont use
    often I purchase, but the average dr appoint here is $150. I can purchase
    ALOT of supplies and medicine for that price, not to mention avoiding
    missing work trying to get in to see the dr, standing in line filling the
    prescription and the fact that the closest hospital is 40 minutes away.

    >> What about for simple aches and pains...do you use Tylenol or Advil?
    >> What about things for like upset stomachs, diarrhea, vomiting,
    > toothaches, etc...? I am pretty sure there are probably tons of natural
    > remedies for these things but isn't it easier to just pop a few pills? <<

    Simple aches and pains- we use a homemade sports cream rub (if its
    muscular). For headaches & migraines - I use feverfew tincture, about 12-15
    drops in a mug of tea. Upset stomachs I usually treat with ginger & honey,
    it works faster than anything else on the market and I couldn't keep Pepto
    bismal down if my life depended on it. It hits my throat and I heave.

    Vomiting... never really had this problem, I kind of feel if my body is
    rejecting things, it's trying to clean itself out. So I go with the flow
    <giggle>, whichever end it chooses to come out. We all had a 48 hour
    stomach flu back this fall... but none of us attempted to get in its way
    with otc meds. My only concern, especially in children, would be sure to
    stay hydrated. Your system can stand to go a few days without eating, but
    you need fluids daily.

    Toothaches... nothing works faster than a crushed clove or clove oil, but
    then, Get to a dentist- tooth abcesses are NOTHING to play around with.

    Cant sleep- a few drops of valerian in your tea at night will knock you
    right out, but you wont be in a drug induced fog should something happen in
    the middle of the night. They were saying on the news this morning that
    Americans filled more than 35 MILLION Prescriptions for sleeping pills last
    year. (Ambien alone made 1.76 BILLION Dollars in 2004) I'm thinking.. I'd
    rather add a couple drops of tincture to my tea than line the pockets of
    these giants.

    Most of the time it really isnt any easier to pop a few pills. It takes the
    same amount of time to add a few drops of tincture to your tea (which I
    drink all day anyway).

    When we travel I do tend to rely on things like Tums, Childrens Motrin or
    Tylenol, and walmart brand excedrin. Then again, I have a few natural
    remedies that I bring with me as well. I wouldnt leave home with Lavender
    essential oil or Tea Tree Oil. They work wonders!

    I guess we look at over the counter "medicines" about the same way I look
    at convenience foods like boxed cake mix.. it's there if you need it in a
    pinch, but it's not what I prefer to have. I've taken Nyquil on occasion,
    Robitussin (grandma says "put some Tussin' on it), tylenol on occasion. But
    I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've taken any of these in the
    last year.

    I don't get sick very often. When I do, it's because I've ignored my
    instincts, been sleep deprived and on the go too much. Usually you can tell
    when you're starting to come down with something, or if the kids bring some
    bug home from school you can tell.. they're more irritable, their ears might
    be red, lips could be a deeper red or more pale than usual, etc. When you
    notice these signs, you boost your immunity (& your childrens) and sit back
    and let mother nature Bring it on.

    Save the antibiotics for the serious stuff.

    Hugs,

    Liss
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    Wow Liss...I'm so impressed. Do you have a "list" of what to get started
    with? The motherwort tincture is something I'd like to have. I suffer
    terrible from PMS...to the point where the doctors have put me on Prozac.
    Oh and that's another thing...what about mixing the natural with the
    chemistry? I take 20mg of Prozac a day and to be honest, with my depression
    and anxiety, I can't function without it. How would taking something
    homemade interfere with something like that. I really want to pick your
    brain on this. And I AM taking notes!!
    I agree with you on the seeing a doctor every 3 or 4 years. I have no
    insurance so I have to be almost dead before I go to the doctors and spend
    that money.
    Also, what is valerian? I have suffered for years from insomnia and I
    refuse to take the meds...over the counter or prescription cause the next
    day I feel like I'm in a fog and I worry terrible that one of my kids will
    need me in the middle of the night and I won't be able to get to them cause
    I'll be drugged. One full nights sleep is all I ask *grin*, I would
    probably not know how to act!!
    So basically, set me up...how do I get started, what should I start with and
    where would I get what I need?
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    Here's my top 10 Must-Haves, but yours will probably differ a bit (It
    completely depends on your family):

    1. Kyolic Garlic
    2. Motherwort Tincture
    3. Nettle (Tincture & Tea)
    4. Lavender Essential Oil
    5. Tea Treel Essential Oil
    6. Feverfew Tincture
    7. St. Johnswort Tincture
    8. Bach's Rescue Remedy
    9. Scullcap Tincture
    10. Valerian Root Tincture
    11. Yarrow Tincture

    Dried Herb for Infusions/ Teas

    1. Nettle
    2. Red Clover
    3. Oatstraw
    4. Comfrey
    5. Mullein
    6. Mints (various ones- peppermint, catmint)


    Other things I always have on hand:

    fresh honey, beeswax, virgin olive oil
    Fresh Ginger Root, Crystallized ginger root (they might turn down tea but
    I've NEVER seen anyone turn down my ginger cookies!)

    >>The motherwort tincture is something I'd like to have. I suffer terrible
    >>from PMS...to the point where the doctors have put me on Prozac. Oh and
    >>that's another thing...what about mixing the natural with the chemistry?
    >>I take 20mg of Prozac a day and to be honest, with my depression and
    >>anxiety, I can't function without it. <<

    You would definetely have to check with your dr on this one, Although most
    doctors would have no idea what the pharmacology of Motherwort is, let alone
    whether they are compatible. You would probably have to speak with a
    Naturopathic Dr to get a legit answer. Rather than go herbal you could go
    the homeopathic route which can be used in conjunction with any current
    prescriptions.

    (I also suggest Susan Weeds books! She delves into this topic quite
    frequently.)

    >>> I agree with you on the seeing a doctor every 3 or 4 years. I have no
    > insurance so I have to be almost dead before I go to the doctors and spend
    > that money.<<

    I have insurance, but I prefer not to go unless it's necessary.

    >>> Also, what is valerian? I have suffered for years from insomnia and I
    >>> refuse to take the meds...over the counter or prescription cause the
    >>> next day I feel like I'm in a fog and I worry terrible that one of my
    >>> kids will need me in the middle of the night and I won't be able to get
    >>> to them cause I'll be drugged.<<

    You might want to start with some nourishing herbs such as nettle &
    oatstraw tea. (Nourishing herbs CAN be used in conjunction with the
    prescriptions your on). These really help soothe the nerves. In addition to
    that you can add 5-7 drops of scullcap tincture or Valerian Root - (to
    answer your question: Valerian Root (Valeriana officinalis) is a perennial
    garden herb that grows to be five feet tall and produces small fragrant
    white flowers, but it's the root of the plant that is used medicinally.
    Valerian Root appears to act by enhancing the actions of a natural brain
    chemical, GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid). GABA is a neurotransmitter, a
    chemical that carries messages between brain nerve cells. GABA inhibits the
    transmission of nerve signals, thereby reducing nervous excitation).

    What is WILL do is to help you fall asleep. If you're the type of person
    that has no trouble Falling asleep But Does have trouble Staying asleep,
    than Valerian won't fix it. It has been my experience that capsules /
    tablets are useless and or poor quality. I prefer tinctures from a reputable
    company.

    Another option if you are normally a coffee drinker during the day, is to
    cut coffee intake and try the homeopathic remedy: Coffea Cruda . That works
    wonderfully as well.

    >> So basically, set me up...how do I get started, what should I start with
    >> and
    > where would I get what I need?<<

    Umm.. just pick 1 or 2 little things. I would start with some nourishing
    teas.. because after you've been drinking those for a couple weeks, you'll
    see a huge difference in how you feel, your level of patience, stress
    levels, etc.

    I would always keep lavender essential oil on hand, it works wonders in
    relieving headaches, sinus congestion, relaxes you at bedtime, etc, etc.

    What you keep on hand may also change with the seasons. For this time of
    year I like to Keep Yarrow Tincture on hand. Yarrow is used for the common
    cold and fevers, it also works great in conjunction with Licorice Root for
    chest congestion, etc. In the summer & fall, I keep Sweet Fern Salve in the
    cupboard (you can't buy it, you gotta make it)- to get rid of poison ivy &
    poision oak, which my kids seem to bring home to me on their clothing.

    You can get what you need at any herbal shop, natural health food store, or
    at tons of different companies online.

    What I would do first and foremost, is to learn the difference between
    nourishing, tonifying, stimulating and potentially poisonous herbs, so that
    you can use them wisely.

    Here is an article from one of my favorite authors, Susan Weed, that can
    help you get started.

    http://www.herbshealing.com/herbal_ezin ... tm#article
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