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    Erica Hager
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    melinda that also sounds like autism with the fits and repetetive behavior and throwing shoes out car window -- could the shoe throwing be that there was something uncomfortable and she couldnt express it?

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    I have never really thought about autism before and I really don't know what it is. She is not unconfortable when she has a fit it usually occurs because we do not do what she wants when she wants it done. When she threw her container of chocolate milk she wanted her dad to turn and look at her right now and he was driving and could not turn.I was speaking to my husband and she wanted us to stop talking and when we did not she threw the milk container. The time she almost killed her kitty she was angry because I would not go to the store and buy her a toy. The kitty survived and today they are inseperable. She has really good days and really bad days and nothing in the middle. Either all good or all bad. The ritalin helps her some but when the patch is close to being changed she gets worse and right after I put a new one on she is bad. It is about a two hour span and then she evens out in her moods again. Her therapist says she hates to be touched and is
    doing touch therapy wiith her now. Do autistic children behave this way? What causes autism?

    Erica Hager <ericahager2005@yahoo.com> wrote: melinda that also sounds like autism with the fits and repetetive behavior and throwing shoes out car window -- could the shoe throwing be that there was something uncomfortable and she couldnt express it?



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    mem68
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    Ask you doctor about overlapping the patches. Putting on a new one 30 min before you take off the old one. This is done w/ the nitroglycerin patches for the heart.
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    many autistic children behave this way. Asperger's kiddos are very smart but have VERY poor social skills. Sometimes they also have sensitivity. My son for a long time, would only take a bath in cold water, and



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    many autistic children behave this way. Asperger's kiddos are very smart but have VERY poor social skills. Sometimes they also have sensitivity. My son for a long time, would only take a bath in cold water, and sometimes it's situational. For example, this shirt is ok to wear today but tomorrow it's "itchy". Many times the anger or fits are do to a lack of coping skills. Maybe it was too loud, or she didn't like the words you were using. Sometimes they can't talk about it so it becomes a fit. Sometimes they don't even know. My son would be petting our dog then punching him for no reason. There are many good sites for ASD (autism spectrum disorders). If I can help at all please do no hesitate to contact me. I am a professional as well as a parent of as apsy. April

    melinda irvin <moon_goddess129@yahoo.com> wrote: I have never really thought about autism before and I really don't know what it is. She is not unconfortable when she has a fit it usually occurs because we do not do what she wants when she wants it done. When she threw her container of chocolate milk she wanted her dad to turn and look at her right now and he was driving and could not turn.I was speaking to my husband and she wanted us to stop talking and when we did not she threw the milk container. The time she almost killed her kitty she was angry because I would not go to the store and buy her a toy.
    The kitty survived and today they are inseperable. She has really good days and really bad days and nothing in the middle. Either all good or all bad. The ritalin helps her some but when the patch is close to being changed she gets worse and right after I put a new one on she is bad. It is about a two hour span and then she evens out in her moods again. Her therapist says she hates to be touched and is doing touch therapy wiith her now. Do autistic children behave this way? What causes autism?

    Erica Hager <ericahager2005@yahoo.com> wrote: melinda that also sounds like autism with the fits and repetetive behavior and throwing shoes out car window -- could the shoe throwing be that there was something uncomfortable and she couldnt express
    it?




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    melinda irvin
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    Thanks, I apperciate it and will write to you later. When you said your son only likes cold water that sounds just like my daughter! She also seems to have no memory of her fits or what she does during that time.

    April K <aprilkraus@yahoo.com> wrote: many autistic children behave this way. Asperger's kiddos are very smart but have VERY poor social skills. Sometimes they also have sensitivity. My son for a long time, would only take a bath in cold water, and sometimes it's situational. For example, this shirt is ok to wear today but
    tomorrow it's "itchy". Many times the anger or fits are do to a lack of coping skills. Maybe it was too loud, or she didn't like the words you were using. Sometimes they can't talk about it so it becomes a fit. Sometimes they don't even know. My son would be petting our dog then punching him for no reason. There are many good sites for ASD (autism spectrum disorders). If I can help at all please do no hesitate to contact me. I am a professional as well as a parent of as apsy. April

    melinda irvin <moon_goddess129@yahoo.com> wrote: I have never really thought about autism before and I really don't know what it is. She is not unconfortable when she has a fit it usually occurs because we do not do what she wants when she wants it done. When
    she threw her container of chocolate milk she wanted her dad to turn and look at her right now and he was driving and could not turn.I was speaking to my husband and she wanted us to stop talking and when we did not she threw the milk container. The time she almost killed her kitty she was angry because I would not go to the store and buy her a toy. The kitty survived and today they are inseperable. She has really good days and really bad days and nothing in the middle. Either all good or all bad. The ritalin helps her some but when the patch is close to being changed she gets worse and right after I put a new one on she is bad. It is about a two hour span and then she evens out in her moods again. Her therapist says she hates to be touched and is doing touch therapy wiith her now. Do autistic children behave this way? What causes autism?

    Erica Hager <ericahager2005@yahoo.com> wrote: melinda that also sounds like autism with the fits and repetetive behavior and throwing shoes out car window -- could the shoe throwing be that there was something uncomfortable and she couldnt express it?


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    Candy Holbert
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    The throwing stuff is a bi polar thing tho it could be ADHD. Matt

    never threw anything or been agressive in anyway and he's the on that

    has Asperger's. But at the same time the not liking to be touched is a

    classic Autism sign. Does she do any hand flapping or toe walking (

    it's when they are walking up on their toes all the time)? Now as far

    as the Autism goes I haven't really been around any other kids, but as

    I understand it most kids that are Autistic have at least two of the

    three things. But this was also close to 10 years ago too.













    On 3/15/08, melinda irvin <moon_goddess129@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > I have never really thought about autism before and I really don't know what

    > it is. She is not unconfortable when she has a fit it usually occurs because

    > we do not do what she wants when she wants it done. When she threw her

    > container of chocolate milk she wanted her dad to turn and look at her right

    > now and he was driving and could not turn. I was speaking to my husband and

    > she wanted us to stop talking and when we did not she threw the milk

    > container. The time she almost killed her kitty she was angry because I

    > would not go to the store and buy her a toy. The kitty survived and today

    > they are inseperable. She has really good days and really bad days and

    > nothing in the middle. Either all good or all bad. The ritalin helps her

    > some but when the patch is close to being changed she gets worse and right

    > after I put a new one on she is bad. It is about a two hour span and then

    > she evens out in her moods again. Her therapist says she hates to be touched

    > and is doing touch

    > therapy wiith her now. Do autistic children behave this way? What causes

    > autism?

    >

    > Erica Hager <ericahager2005@yahoo.com> wrote:

    > melinda that also sounds like autism with the fits and

    > repetetive behavior and throwing shoes out car window -- could the shoe

    > throwing be that there was something uncomfortable and she couldnt express

    > it?

    >

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    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt;COLOR: teal;FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS';">Not so much autism, but it is a sensory issue.<SPAN> Many ADHD kids have other issues as well as the ADHD.
    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt;COLOR: teal;FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS';">Autism has more to do with not feeling emotions as much many autistic kids don't connect with people well.<SPAN> Also, a common ADHD behavior they take everything literally.<SPAN> You ask them if the cat has their tongue (meaning why are they so quiet which I know rarely happens), they will think a cat literally has their tongue.<SPAN> Also, they don't get hints well, like a waiter hovering to speed your eating up so they can have the table for another patron it just goes right over their head.
    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt;COLOR: teal;FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS';">
    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt;COLOR: teal;FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS';">Also ADHD is hereditary.<SPAN> My son got it from me.<SPAN> The waiter hovering that was me not getting it and my mom letting me know the innuendo.<SPAN> <grin>
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    <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman';">I have never really thought about autism before and I really don't know what it is. She is not unconfortable when she has a fit it usually occurs because we do not do what she wants when she wants it done.



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    melinda irvin
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    Yes, she does walk on her toes all the time and has since birth. I spoke with her therapist today and found out there are many different types of autism and that she thinks my daughter has one. We are now doing a brushing therapy with her where I brush her body three or four times a day. It is supposed to giver her an outlet for the hyperactivity and help her to learn to deal with touch. The therapist said that if we can do it at home four times a day in two weeks or less we should see dramatic improvements. I was able to brush her three times today, the first time was a battle,the second time was a battle but not as bad and the third time she cooperated. I am very excited that maybe this will help although I was cautioned it will not cure her, only help her to deal with these urges that bring on the fits. Have you ever heard of this type of therapy before?

    Candy Holbert <candy.program@gmail.com> wrote: The throwing stuff is a bi polar thing tho it could be ADHD. Matt
    never threw anything or been agressive in anyway and he's the on that
    has Asperger's. But at the same time the not liking to be touched is a
    classic Autism sign. Does she do any hand flapping or toe walking (
    it's when they are walking up on their toes all the time)? Now as far
    as the Autism goes I haven't really been around any other kids, but as
    I understand it most kids that are Autistic have at least two of the
    three things. But this was also close to 10 years ago too.

    On 3/15/08, melinda irvin
    <moon_goddess129@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > I have never really thought about autism before and I really don't know what
    > it is. She is not unconfortable when she has a fit it usually occurs because
    > we do not do what she wants when she wants it done. When she threw her
    > container of chocolate milk she wanted her dad to turn and look at her right
    > now and he was driving and could not turn. I was speaking to my husband and
    > she wanted us to stop talking and when we did not she threw the milk
    > container. The time she almost killed her kitty she was angry because I
    > would not go to the store and buy her a toy. The kitty survived and today
    > they are inseperable. She has really good days and really bad days and
    > nothing in the middle. Either all good or all bad. The ritalin helps her
    > some but when the patch is close to being changed she gets worse
    and right
    > after I put a new one on she is bad. It is about a two hour span and then
    > she evens out in her moods again. Her therapist says she hates to be touched
    > and is doing touch
    > therapy wiith her now. Do autistic children behave this way? What causes
    > autism?
    >
    > Erica Hager <ericahager2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > melinda that also sounds like autism with the fits and
    > repetetive behavior and throwing shoes out car window -- could the shoe
    > throwing be that there was something uncomfortable and she couldnt express
    > it?
    >
    >
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    We have 3 children on the autism spectrum.We have 1 toe walker.We did weights on shoes for periods of time each day.We do heavy carrying with him(he loves this) and massage to keep his range of motion.(this is no fun for him.As he has gottenolder the toe walking has gotten somewhat less.Unless he loses his range of motion we have been told not to worry.We did the brushing(Wallberge Protocal) with one child but had to take classes in order to do it right.It helped some but we switched to a massage methold as she got older.lLea

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    Candy Holbert
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    Yes I have, and it does help in some cases, in Matt&#39;s case he didn&#39;t have fits like that he was to busy trying to please. And the only touching issues with him are things in his hand. As a small kid there were some things in his mouth issues but they are long gone now. He was never standoffish or don&#39;t touch me. But not knowing what caused him to be the way he is back then we hugged him all the time. Plus grandmother would carry him around a lot. So by the time he was 12 months he had learned to like being touched. But he cried a lot the first few months and now I wonder if that was what his problem was. That he didn&#39;t want to be picked up or touched.


    Also he&#39;s very social, he does get quiet at times in public but he can go into the gas station and get a pop etc on his own. In 7th grade he was in a talent show and they sang the song. I don&#39;t remember now were they were from some Autism organization but there were two ladies that came to see him in the talent show because they had never known of even a Asperger&#39;s kid being able to do that. But he didn&#39;t it, then even danced a little bit. The song was Bye Bye Bye by the Back Street Boys He did it with another guy and two girls. The guy was the first peer that accepted him as he is and was a friend. His one on one also encouraged him to raise his hand, I think that one thing really helped him. There was another Asperger&#39;s kid there a year younger that was very non social his mom treated him like he was disabled where as I treated Matt as much like a normal kid as I could.


    Candy

    On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:06 PM, melinda irvin <moon_goddess129@yahoo.com> wrote:


    Yes, she does walk on her toes all the time and has since birth. I spoke with her therapist today and found out there are many different types of autism and that she thinks my daughter has one. We are now doing a brushing therapy with her where I brush her body three or four times a day. It is supposed to giver her an outlet for the hyperactivity and help her to learn to deal with touch. The therapist said that if we can do it at home four times a day in two weeks or less we should see dramatic improvements. I was able to brush her three times today, the first time was a battle,the second time was a battle but not as bad and the third time she cooperated. I am very excited that maybe this will help although I was cautioned it will not cure her, only help her to deal with these urges that bring on the fits. Have you ever heard of this type of therapy before?


    Candy Holbert <candy.program@gmail.com> wrote: <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);">
    The throwing stuff is a bi polar thing tho it could be ADHD. Matt
    never threw anything or been agressive in anyway and he&#39;s the on that
    has Asperger&#39;s. But at the same time the not liking to be touched is a

    classic Autism sign. Does she do any hand flapping or toe walking (
    it&#39;s when they are walking up on their toes all the time)? Now as far
    as the Autism goes I haven&#39;t really been around any other kids, but as

    I understand it most kids that are Autistic have at least two of the
    three things. But this was also close to 10 years ago too.

    On 3/15/08, melinda irvin
    <moon_goddess129@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > I have never really thought about autism before and I really don&#39;t know what
    > it is. She is not unconfortable when she has a fit it usually occurs because

    > we do not do what she wants when she wants it done. When she threw her
    > container of chocolate milk she wanted her dad to turn and look at her right
    > now and he was driving and could not turn. I was speaking to my husband and

    > she wanted us to stop talking and when we did not she threw the milk
    > container. The time she almost killed her kitty she was angry because I
    > would not go to the store and buy her a toy. The kitty survived and today

    > they are inseperable. She has really good days and really bad days and
    > nothing in the middle. Either all good or all bad. The ritalin helps her
    > some but when the patch is close to being changed she gets worse
    and right
    > after I put a new one on she is bad. It is about a two hour span and then
    > she evens out in her moods again. Her therapist says she hates to be touched
    > and is doing touch
    > therapy wiith her now. Do autistic children behave this way? What causes

    > autism?
    >
    > Erica Hager <ericahager2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > melinda that also sounds like autism with the fits and
    > repetetive behavior and throwing shoes out car window -- could the shoe

    > throwing be that there was something uncomfortable and she couldnt express
    > it?
    >
    >
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    Erica Hager
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    melinda (& all)

    kudos to you for talking to her doctor and getting her checked out again! there are so many thoughts and ideas posted on the web and this group lately about the disease(s) we are talking about, and the one thing I keep saying to all the parents who ask me questions is to get the child seen by a dr and I am so glad you did! so many people are scared of an autism or ASD diagnosis because they think it means a "life sentence" when in fact, not getting the proper diagnosis early on will do that -- the earlier the docs and teachers identify a problem the sooner you can start doing various therapuetic things, such as the touch therapy, meds, counselling, proper placement, IEP adjustment or creation at school and so forth -- its when you dont know what is going on when you see kids with problems throughout school and throughout life, because if you dont know what the problem(s) are you cannot properly deal with them, or if you do deal with them
    it could be in a way that might be counterproductive, especially with a sensitive autistic child -- who for example may not understand why she is being yelled at for throwing something out a car window or at dad (just an example), because she is sensorily overloaded at the moment she does those things nothing you say or do would get through, and it can get frustrating for the parents (esp when things are being thrown directly at their head -- my son has done this too, so don't feel bad -- i think most parents have been there), sometimes at very least its just comforting knowing that you know ok, this is just an "autistic fit" or meltdown and there isn't much i can do, right now but its not my fault and its not his/her fault it just is what it is and do what you can to minimize the stress for all concerned.

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    Candy Holbert
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    What do you mean heavy carrying? And how old is he?
    Candy

    On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:14 PM, comicmama <comicmama@yahoo.ca> wrote:


    We have 3 children on the autism spectrum.We have 1 toe walker.We did weights on shoes for periods of time each day.We do heavy carrying with him(he loves this) and massage to keep his range of motion.(this is no fun for him.As he has gottenolder the toe walking has gotten somewhat less.Unless he loses his range of motion we have been told not to worry.We did the brushing(Wallberge Protocal) with one child but had to take classes in order to do it right.It helped some but we switched to a massage methold as she got older.lLea


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    heavy carrying .we filled a waggon with toys etc.we also filled a backpack with stuff to 10% of his weight at the time for about 10 to 15 Min's only.We have used rice or anything easy to measure.He is 7 now and loves to carry in the milk jugs.we have a slide off our balcony and encourage him to walk up the slide as it stretches needed muscles.(running up a hill also helps)Pulling 20 lbs of rice in a waggon now as it is dressed up as a buddy.They are helping the toe walking as well as keeping him calm.He also uses the trampoline in the backyard lots for all the sensory input he needs.Lea

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    Thank you for explaining it to me. I&#39;m glad that it&#39;s helping as I had never heard of it before. Sounds like something that might of helped mine many years ago. Just a FYI Matt was a reall bad toe walker but by the time he got to high school he had totally quit. He also doesn&#39;t hand flap in public now as he does have control over it. But at home he still does it if he gets excited.


    Candy

    On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:07 PM, comicmama <comicmama@yahoo.ca> wrote:


    heavy carrying .we filled a waggon with toys etc.we also filled a backpack with stuff to 10% of his weight at the time for about 10 to 15 Min&#39;s only.We have used rice or anything easy to measure.He is 7 now and loves to carry in the milk jugs.we have a slide off our balcony and encourage him to walk up the slide as it stretches needed muscles.(running up a hill also helps)Pulling 20 lbs of rice in a waggon now as it is dressed up as a buddy.They are helping the toe walking as well as keeping him calm.He also uses the trampoline in the backyard lots for all the sensory input he needs.Lea



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