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I have a question for you all. I have a 2000 Ford Taurus Wagon. The thing I hate is that with Ford when you turn on the Window Defroster for the front window it also turns on the Air Conditioner. Well with the price of gas I do not use my AC. I did not use it all summer and I sure don't

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  1. #1
    FlyingAndSmiling
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    I have a question for you all. I have a 2000 Ford Taurus Wagon. The

    thing I hate is that with Ford when you turn on the Window Defroster

    for the front window it also turns on the Air Conditioner. Well with

    the price of gas I do not use my AC. I did not use it all summer and

    I sure don't want to use it in the middle of winter. It doesn't even

    have any freon in it anyway. (Kept me from using it all summer.)



    So anyway is there anything I can put on my windows to keep them from

    fogging over so I don't have to turn on my window defroster? I am not

    worried about my back just my front window. I want something that is

    going to last and not have to be reapplied all the time. I will admit

    I am sorta on the lazy side when it comes to that.



    Any inexpensive options?? My Budget is extremely tight. With

    Christmas and my daughters birthday this month.




    Jan








  2. #2
    Liss
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    --- In Budget101_@yahoogroups.com, "FlyingAndSmiling"

    <Free.Smiling@...> wrote:

    >

    >

    > So anyway is there anything I can put on my windows to keep them from

    > fogging over so I don't have to turn on my window defroster? <<



    Try the recipe on our page under Tips & Tricks in the Garage... you'll

    find a recipe for homemade Winter Window Wipes for just this reason.



    http://budget101.com/new_page_5.htm








  3. #3
    Monique
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    It shouldn&#39;t turn on the air if you have the temp setting high. It might be blowing cold air because the car isn&#39;t warm yet, though. But, shaving cream on the window will stop it from fogging. Spray shaving cream on a washcloth, then wipe it on the window. You can then wipe it off.


    On Dec 8, 2007 11:07 AM, FlyingAndSmiling <Free.Smiling@gmail.com> wrote:







    I have a question for you all. I have a 2000 Ford Taurus Wagon. The

    thing I hate is that with Ford when you turn on the Window Defroster

    for the front window it also turns on the Air Conditioner. Well with

    the price of gas I do not use my AC. I did not use it all summer and

    I sure don&#39;t want to use it in the middle of winter. It doesn&#39;t even

    have any freon in it anyway. (Kept me from using it all summer.)



    So anyway is there anything I can put on my windows to keep them from

    fogging over so I don&#39;t have to turn on my window defroster? I am not

    worried about my back just my front window. I want something that is

    going to last and not have to be reapplied all the time. I will admit

    I am sorta on the lazy side when it comes to that.



    Any inexpensive options?? My Budget is extremely tight. With

    Christmas and my daughters birthday this month.



    Jan






    [/quote]

    --
    Monique




  4. #4
    Larry Woodbury
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    <font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman">12.0pt;color:black;">Hi, your a/c compressor is not going to
    run for two reasons, 1<sup>st</sup> with no refrigerant in the system it won’t
    run because the low pressure switch will keep it off, and 2<sup>nd</sup> in the
    wintertime an ambient temperature switch tells the compressor not to run because
    a/c is not effective below approx. 40 degrees. So turn on your defrost and be
    safe with no worries. An auto tech for 40 years, Larry







    It shouldn't turn on the air if you have the temp
    setting high. It might be blowing cold air because the car isn't warm
    yet, though. But, shaving cream on the window will stop it from
    fogging. Spray shaving cream on a washcloth, then wipe it on the window.
    You can then wipe it off.


    On Dec 8, 2007 11:07 AM, FlyingAndSmiling <Free.Smiling@gmail.com> wrote:




    <p style="background:I have a question for you
    all. I have a 2000 Ford Taurus Wagon. The

    thing I hate is that with Ford when you turn on the Window Defroster

    for the front window it also turns on the Air Conditioner. Well with

    the price of gas I do not use my AC. I did not use it all summer and

    I sure don't want to use it in the middle of winter. It doesn't even

    have any freon in it anyway. (Kept me from using it all summer.)



    So anyway is there anything I can put on my windows to keep them from

    fogging over so I don't have to turn on my window defroster? I am not

    worried about my back just my front window. I want something that is

    going to last and not have to be reapplied all the time. I will admit

    I am sorta on the lazy side when it comes to that.



    Any inexpensive options?? My Budget is extremely tight. With

    Christmas and my daughters birthday this month.




    Jan








    <span width="1">


    --

    Monique

    12.0pt;color:



  5. #5
    Brandon Skinner
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    Tonight my wife and two kids went to Carl's Jr for dinner, making a last minute decision to eat in.

    The night started off great as the cashiers were nice enough to bring dinner to us where we sat and made sure that we had ketchup and the whole 9 yards. A little while later, a group of guys came in. There were about 5 or 6 of them with two girls. The sat down pretty near us, only divided by a partition wall maybe as tall as my waste. Needless to say, we could hear every word, which normally wouldn't bother us as people are obnoxious all the time. Unfortunately they were dropping the f-bomb every five seconds and were pretty loud and really vulgar otherwise.

    My son in 21 months old. Hes repeating EVERYTHING. Hes started telling us don't before we can tell him don't. He started saying sit before we tell him to and pronounces our dogs name Bella to perfection. I couldn't just sit there and let them keep talking like this in front of my son and even in front of
    us. Last thing I need is my son calling out in a dead quiet congregation at church the f-bomb as the speaker gives the public talk.

    So, I walked over the partition, very kindly said, "I don't mean to bother you, but my son is 20 months old, can you please watch the language?" and the guy sitting directly in front of me said, "Alright, man"

    As I turned around to sit down some of the guys started making comments, "I don't f****ing care." I thought they were just being smart and would stop, but it started getting worse, so, my wife and I got the kids, she wrapped up her food and we left.

    We were SHOCKED to see two other families who had small children and watched me request they watch their language, leave with us. One of the dads came over to me and said, "I guess they come in all types, probably drunk, don't let them get to you" implying that we should not let it ruin our night. They clearly left due to the guys being so vulgar, their little girl kept
    turning around and smiling and giggling at Kaden. It was nice to have a perfect stranger walk up and respect my attempts and decision to leave.

    What is with kids these days? I mean, I'll be 22 in January and just don't have such disregard for people. I mean, these guys were my age and a couple years older. I understand they are going to be vulgar and nasty and obnoxious, but even before I had kids, when I had a nasty mouth, had ANYONE asked me not to because of their kids I would have immediately apologized and changed my language. I just can't believe they had such a complete disregard for anyone sharing the same air they believe and with KIDS at that!

    Should I have got the manager involved? Should I had said anything else, or just left like I did? Its sad that we can't enjoy a nice dinner at a restaurant, and we shouldn't have to leave early to avoid such an environment.

    Then again, maybe I'm too sensitive. Yesterday my wife and I went to Macy's for
    some clothes and while pushing the stroller around some 3 or 4 year kid in a stroller took one of those toy black guns with the orange plastic piece and pointed it at my son and said "Bang! Bang!".. I was livid. I know he didn't know but what the heck is the parent thinking??? Why would she allow him to even play with one, especially if he doesn't know not to point it at people and make such gestures. I circled back around to cross paths again and was going to tell him, "NO! We don't point that at people!" but my wife said, lets just go hunny, though she admitted she wanted to comment to the mom.

    Am I being overly sensitive? It really does seem like a moral degrade as the generations go by.... Are these parents even trying to raise their kids decently?

    Sorry this was so long! Suggestions/Comments welcome.

    Brandon Skinner

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  6. #6
    libramommy66@brier.net
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    I totally agree with you, I think the manager should have stepped in and

    said something to those guys...there should have been a no profanity

    sign posted...when our kids were young we would take our kids out to

    dinner and have to try to explain why they couldn't run around the

    restaurant like the other kids were doing..to us that wasn't done. I

    have in the past used some foul language if I was mad enough...but tried

    never to in front of my kids and especially in front of other kids. I

    don't think you are too sensitive...I think more parents should stand

    up for their kids and be more proactive like you were. I think your

    little one is going to turn out just fine...cause you are gonna great

    parents. You have already demonstrated what it takes to be a good

    father. Keep up the great work..



    LaRae

    On 12/9/2007, "Brandon Skinner" <bsskinns@yahoo.com> wrote:



    >Tonight my wife and two kids went to Carl's Jr for dinner, making a last minute

    decision to eat in.

    >

    >The night started off great as the cashiers were nice enough to bring dinner to

    us where we sat and made sure that we had ketchup and the whole 9 yards. A

    little while later, a group of guys came in. There were about 5 or 6 of them

    with two girls. The sat down pretty near us, only divided by a partition wall

    maybe as tall as my waste. Needless to say, we could hear every word, which

    normally wouldn't bother us as people are obnoxious all the time. Unfortunately

    they were dropping the f-bomb every five seconds and were pretty loud and really

    vulgar otherwise.

    >

    >My son in 21 months old. Hes repeating EVERYTHING. Hes started telling us don't

    before we can tell him don't. He started saying sit before we tell him to and

    pronounces our dogs name Bella to perfection. I couldn't just sit there and let

    them keep talking like this in front of my son and even in front of us. Last

    thing I need is my son calling out in a dead quiet congregation at church the

    f-bomb as the speaker gives the public talk.

    >

    >So, I walked over the partition, very kindly said, "I don't mean to bother you,

    but my son is 20 months old, can you please watch the language?" and the guy

    sitting directly in front of me said, "Alright, man"

    >

    >As I turned around to sit down some of the guys started making comments, "I

    don't f****ing care." I thought they were just being smart and would stop, but

    it started getting worse, so, my wife and I got the kids, she wrapped up her

    food and we left.

    >

    >We were SHOCKED to see two other families who had small children and watched me

    request they watch their language, leave with us. One of the dads came over to

    me and said, "I guess they come in all types, probably drunk, don't let them get

    to you" implying that we should not let it ruin our night. They clearly left due

    to the guys being so vulgar, their little girl kept turning around and smiling

    and giggling at Kaden. It was nice to have a perfect stranger walk up and

    respect my attempts and decision to leave.

    >

    >What is with kids these days? I mean, I'll be 22 in January and just don't have

    such disregard for people. I mean, these guys were my age and a couple years

    older. I understand they are going to be vulgar and nasty and obnoxious, but

    even before I had kids, when I had a nasty mouth, had ANYONE asked me not to

    because of their kids I would have immediately apologized and changed my

    language. I just can't believe they had such a complete disregard for anyone

    sharing the same air they believe and with KIDS at that!

    >

    >Should I have got the manager involved? Should I had said anything else, or

    just left like I did? Its sad that we can't enjoy a nice dinner at a restaurant,

    and we shouldn't have to leave early to avoid such an environment.

    >

    >Then again, maybe I'm too sensitive. Yesterday my wife and I went to Macy's for

    some clothes and while pushing the stroller around some 3 or 4 year kid in a

    stroller took one of those toy black guns with the orange plastic piece and

    pointed it at my son and said "Bang! Bang!".. I was livid. I know he didn't know

    but what the heck is the parent thinking??? Why would she allow him to even play

    with one, especially if he doesn't know not to point it at people and make such

    gestures. I circled back around to cross paths again and was going to tell him,

    "NO! We don't point that at people!" but my wife said, lets just go hunny,

    though she admitted she wanted to comment to the mom.

    >

    >Am I being overly sensitive? It really does seem like a moral degrade as the

    generations go by.... Are these parents even trying to raise their kids

    decently?

    >

    >Sorry this was so long! Suggestions/Comments welcome.

    >

    >Brandon Skinner

    >

    >---------------------------------

    >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.)






  7. #7
    tammyco5@aol.com
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    Hi Brandon,
    Bravo to you for standing up for morality!!! I would have done the same thing but when they didn't stop with the F bombs I would have gone to the manager. I would not have left until I did everything I could to show these punks their behavior is not acceptable in public! What is wrong with the other adults who just walk away or sit and tolerate it??? To me they're just as much to blame. We need to stop turning our heads to immorality and start making a stand. I would have called the police if the manager would have allowed them to stay after talking with them and not getting anywhere.

    With the gun situation I have a different view. I don't think there's anything wrong with kids playing with toy guns. But, I have a big problem with violent video games, movies, etc. When it's done in play I see it differently. My 9 yr. old still finds different toys and such and plays with his friends like they're shooting each other. To me that's all part of being a boy.

    Your son is very blessed to have a father that really wants the best for his precious son!

    Tammy



    In a message dated 12/9/2007 5:59:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, bsskinns@yahoo.com writes:
    Should I have got the manager involved? Should I had said anything else, or just left like I did? Its sad that we can't enjoy a nice dinner at a restaurant, and we shouldn't have to leave early to avoid such an environment.

    Then again, maybe I'm too sensitive. Yesterday my wife and I went to Macy's for some clothes and while pushing the stroller around some 3 or 4 year kid in a stroller took one of those toy black guns with the orange plastic piece and pointed it at my son and said "Bang! Bang!".. I was livid. I know he didn't know but what the heck is the parent thinking??? Why would she allow him to even play with one, especially if he doesn't know not to point it at people and make such gestures. I circled back around to cross paths again and was going to tell him, "NO! We don't point that at people!" but my wife said, lets just go hunny, though she admitted she wanted to comment to the mom.

    Am I being overly sensitive? It really does seem like a moral degrade as the generations go by.... Are these parents even trying to raise their kids decently?

    Sorry this was so long! Suggestions/Comments welcome.

    Brandon Skinner




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  8. #8
    Dee Bleau
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    i dont think that you are wrong at all. I would haev left AND I would have gotten the MGR. I have been a manager in the Resturant for a long time and I HAVE dealt with that wituation and I have asked kids to leave if they can not be respectful. I also tell them that I dont care if they are here but we can nit sirespect other ppl as well. In My family the men are huunters. I can tell you that the kids were allowed to play with toy guns and the minute they did that I woudl take them away and trow them out. I would def not allow them in public since everyone has the right to raise their childrem and some ppl dont like guns. My son's mouth is horrible. He is 16. I am on him constintley about it. and I pray that he is not like that in public with his friends. I find out about it THeir WILL be hell to pay. I willa sk
    him now that I think about it. That realyl erks me taht kids are so disrespeful thises days.

    Brandon Skinner <bsskinns@yahoo.com> wrote: Tonight my wife and two kids went to Carl's Jr for dinner, making a last minute decision to eat in.

    The night started off great as the cashiers were nice enough to bring dinner to us where we sat and made sure that we had ketchup and the whole 9 yards. A little while later, a group of guys came in. There were about 5 or 6 of them with two girls. The sat down pretty near us, only divided by a partition
    wall maybe as tall as my waste. Needless to say, we could hear every word, which normally wouldn't bother us as people are obnoxious all the time. Unfortunately they were dropping the f-bomb every five seconds and were pretty loud and really vulgar otherwise.

    My son in 21 months old. Hes repeating EVERYTHING. Hes started telling us don't before we can tell him don't. He started saying sit before we tell him to and pronounces our dogs name Bella to perfection. I couldn't just sit there and let them keep talking like this in front of my son and even in front of us. Last thing I need is my son calling out in a dead quiet congregation at church the f-bomb as the speaker gives the public talk.

    So, I walked over the partition, very kindly said, "I don't mean to bother you, but my son is 20 months old, can you please watch the language?" and the guy sitting directly in front of me said, "Alright, man"

    As I turned around to sit down some of the guys started
    making comments, "I don't f****ing care." I thought they were just being smart and would stop, but it started getting worse, so, my wife and I got the kids, she wrapped up her food and we left.

    We were SHOCKED to see two other families who had small children and watched me request they watch their language, leave with us. One of the dads came over to me and said, "I guess they come in all types, probably drunk, don't let them get to you" implying that we should not let it ruin our night. They clearly left due to the guys being so vulgar, their little girl kept turning around and smiling and giggling at Kaden. It was nice to have a perfect stranger walk up and respect my attempts and decision to leave.

    What is with kids these days? I mean, I'll be 22 in January and just don't have such disregard for people. I mean, these guys were my age and a couple years older. I understand they are going to be vulgar and nasty and obnoxious, but even before I had kids,
    when I had a nasty mouth, had ANYONE asked me not to because of their kids I would have immediately apologized and changed my language. I just can't believe they had such a complete disregard for anyone sharing the same air they believe and with KIDS at that!

    Should I have got the manager involved? Should I had said anything else, or just left like I did? Its sad that we can't enjoy a nice dinner at a restaurant, and we shouldn't have to leave early to avoid such an environment.

    Then again, maybe I'm too sensitive. Yesterday my wife and I went to Macy's for some clothes and while pushing the stroller around some 3 or 4 year kid in a stroller took one of those toy black guns with the orange plastic piece and pointed it at my son and said "Bang! Bang!".. I was livid. I know he didn't know but what the heck is the parent thinking??? Why would she allow him to even play with one, especially if he doesn't know not to point it at people and make such gestures. I
    circled back around to cross paths again and was going to tell him, "NO! We don't point that at people!" but my wife said, lets just go hunny, though she admitted she wanted to comment to the mom.

    Am I being overly sensitive? It really does seem like a moral degrade as the generations go by.... Are these parents even trying to raise their kids decently?

    Sorry this was so long! Suggestions/Comments welcome.

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  9. #9
    Kelly Weyd
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    I agree with you. I say all the time that people just don't treat each other with respect anymore, and they are not teaching their kids any respect either. Kelly

    Brandon Skinner <bsskinns@yahoo.com> wrote: Tonight my wife and two kids went to Carl's Jr for dinner, making a last minute decision to eat in.

    The night started off great as the cashiers were nice enough to bring dinner to us where we sat and made sure that we had ketchup and the whole 9 yards. A little while later, a group of guys came in.
    There were about 5 or 6 of them with two girls. The sat down pretty near us, only divided by a partition wall maybe as tall as my waste. Needless to say, we could hear every word, which normally wouldn't bother us as people are obnoxious all the time. Unfortunately they were dropping the f-bomb every five seconds and were pretty loud and really vulgar otherwise.

    My son in 21 months old. Hes repeating EVERYTHING. Hes started telling us don't before we can tell him don't. He started saying sit before we tell him to and pronounces our dogs name Bella to perfection. I couldn't just sit there and let them keep talking like this in front of my son and even in front of us. Last thing I need is my son calling out in a dead quiet congregation at church the f-bomb as the speaker gives the public talk.

    So, I walked over the partition, very kindly said, "I don't mean to bother you, but my son is 20 months old, can you please watch the language?" and the guy sitting
    directly in front of me said, "Alright, man"

    As I turned around to sit down some of the guys started making comments, "I don't f****ing care." I thought they were just being smart and would stop, but it started getting worse, so, my wife and I got the kids, she wrapped up her food and we left.

    We were SHOCKED to see two other families who had small children and watched me request they watch their language, leave with us. One of the dads came over to me and said, "I guess they come in all types, probably drunk, don't let them get to you" implying that we should not let it ruin our night. They clearly left due to the guys being so vulgar, their little girl kept turning around and smiling and giggling at Kaden. It was nice to have a perfect stranger walk up and respect my attempts and decision to leave.

    What is with kids these days? I mean, I'll be 22 in January and just don't have such disregard for people. I mean, these guys were my age and a couple
    years older. I understand they are going to be vulgar and nasty and obnoxious, but even before I had kids, when I had a nasty mouth, had ANYONE asked me not to because of their kids I would have immediately apologized and changed my language. I just can't believe they had such a complete disregard for anyone sharing the same air they believe and with KIDS at that!

    Should I have got the manager involved? Should I had said anything else, or just left like I did? Its sad that we can't enjoy a nice dinner at a restaurant, and we shouldn't have to leave early to avoid such an environment.

    Then again, maybe I'm too sensitive. Yesterday my wife and I went to Macy's for some clothes and while pushing the stroller around some 3 or 4 year kid in a stroller took one of those toy black guns with the orange plastic piece and pointed it at my son and said "Bang! Bang!".. I was livid. I know he didn't know but what the heck is the parent thinking??? Why would she allow him
    to even play with one, especially if he doesn't know not to point it at people and make such gestures. I circled back around to cross paths again and was going to tell him, "NO! We don't point that at people!" but my wife said, lets just go hunny, though she admitted she wanted to comment to the mom.

    Am I being overly sensitive? It really does seem like a moral degrade as the generations go by.... Are these parents even trying to raise their kids decently?

    Sorry this was so long! Suggestions/Comments welcome.

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  10. #10
    mem68
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    Brandon,You are not being ovrly sensitive.Thes are bullies. And now days

    they would just as soon blow your family away if provoked. I think that you

    did the right thing;

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: <libramommy66@brier.net>

    To: <Budget101_@yahoogroups.com>

    Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:37 AM

    Subject: Re: Budget101.com : OT: Moral Degrade --- My Peers?





    > I totally agree with you, I think the manager should have stepped in and

    > said something to those guys...there should have been a no profanity

    > sign posted...when our kids were young we would take our kids out to

    >








  11. #11
    Thomas & Tracy Harris
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    as someone who uses more foul language than I should, your best bet would have been to say something to the manager so that they could address it.

    I would NEVER curse in an open restaurant, and believe me I have a mouth likea sailor - not proud of it, just facts and a very bad habit.

    Thomas & Tracy Harris
    TNT Quarter Horses home of:
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    [quote]
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Brandon Skinner
    To: Budget101_@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:39 PM
    Subject: Budget101.com : OT: Moral Degrade --- My Peers?

    Tonight my wife and two kids went to Carl's Jr for dinner, making a last minute decision to eat in.

    The night started off great as the cashiers were nice enough to bring dinner to us where we sat and made sure that we had ketchup and the whole 9 yards. A little while later, a group of guys came in. There were about 5 or 6 of them with two girls. The sat down pretty near us, only divided by a partition wall maybe as tall as my waste. Needless to say, we could hear every word, which normally wouldn't bother us as people are obnoxious all the time. Unfortunately they were dropping the f-bomb every five seconds and were pretty loud and really vulgar otherwise.

    My son in 21 months old. Hes repeating EVERYTHING. Hes started telling us don't before we can tell him don't. He started saying sit before we tell him to and pronounces our dogs name Bella to perfection. I couldn't just sit there and let them keep talking like this in front of my son and even in front of us. Last thing I need is my son calling out in a dead quiet congregation at church the f-bomb as the speaker gives the public talk.

    So, I walked over the partition, very kindly said, "I don't mean to bother you, but my son is 20 months old, can you please watch the language?" and the guy sitting directly in front of me said, "Alright, man"

    As I turned around to sit down some of the guys started making comments, "I don't f****ing care." I thought they were just being smart and would stop, but it started getting worse, so, my wife and I got the kids, she wrapped up her food and we left.

    We were SHOCKED to see two other families who had small children and watched me request they watch their language, leave with us. One of the dads came over to me and said, "I guess they come in all types, probably drunk, don't let them get to you" implying that we should not let it ruin our night. They clearly left due to the guys being so vulgar, their little girl kept turning around and smiling and giggling at Kaden. It was nice to have a perfect stranger walk up and respect my attempts and decision to leave.

    What is with kids these days? I mean, I'll be 22 in January and just don't have such disregard for people. I mean, these guys were my age and a couple years older. I understand they are going to be vulgar and nasty and obnoxious, but even before I had kids, when I had a nasty mouth, had ANYONE asked me not to because of their kids I would have immediately apologized and changed my language. I just can't believe they had such a complete disregard for anyone sharing the same air they believe and with KIDS at that!

    Should I have got the manager involved? Should I had said anything else, or just left like I did? Its sad that we can't enjoy a nice dinner at a restaurant, and we shouldn't have to leave early to avoid such an environment.

    Then again, maybe I'm too sensitive. Yesterday my wife and I went to Macy's for some clothes and while pushing the stroller around some 3 or 4 year kid in a stroller took one of those toy black guns with the orange plastic piece and pointed it at my son and said "Bang! Bang!".. I was livid. I know he didn't know but what the heck is the parent thinking??? Why would she allow him to even play with one, especially if he doesn't know not to point it at people and make such gestures. I circled back around to cross paths again and was going to tell him, "NO! We don't point that at people!" but my wife said, lets just go hunny, though she admitted she wanted to comment to the mom.

    Am I being overly sensitive? It really does seem like a moral degrade as the generations go by.... Are these parents even trying to raise their kids decently?

    Sorry this was so long! Suggestions/Comments welcome.

    Brandon Skinner




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    tribolt
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    Hi, I have a 3 yr old Granddaughter so I know about little ones and what they repeat. Yes, you should involve the manager. I would let him know that you left, why you left and that other families left with you also. Maybe your talk will help make this a more friendly family place to eat. Debbie And may I say, I applaud your actions.

    Brandon Skinner <bsskinns@yahoo.com> wrote: Tonight my wife and two kids went to Carl's Jr for dinner, making a last minute decision to eat in.

    The night started off great as the cashiers were nice enough to bring dinner to us where we sat and made sure that we had ketchup and the whole 9 yards. A little while later, a group of guys came in. There were about 5 or 6 of them with two girls. The sat down pretty near us, only divided by a partition wall maybe as tall as my waste. Needless to say, we could hear every word, which normally wouldn't bother us as people are obnoxious all the time. Unfortunately they were dropping the f-bomb every five seconds and were pretty loud and really vulgar otherwise.

    My son in 21 months old. Hes repeating
    EVERYTHING. Hes started telling us don't before we can tell him don't. He started saying sit before we tell him to and pronounces our dogs name Bella to perfection. I couldn't just sit there and let them keep talking like this in front of my son and even in front of us. Last thing I need is my son calling out in a dead quiet congregation at church the f-bomb as the speaker gives the public talk.

    So, I walked over the partition, very kindly said, "I don't mean to bother you, but my son is 20 months old, can you please watch the language?" and the guy sitting directly in front of me said, "Alright, man"

    As I turned around to sit down some of the guys started making comments, "I don't f****ing care." I thought they were just being smart and would stop, but it started getting worse, so, my wife and I got the kids, she wrapped up her food and we left.

    We were SHOCKED to see two other families who had small children and watched me request they watch their
    language, leave with us. One of the dads came over to me and said, "I guess they come in all types, probably drunk, don't let them get to you" implying that we should not let it ruin our night. They clearly left due to the guys being so vulgar, their little girl kept turning around and smiling and giggling at Kaden. It was nice to have a perfect stranger walk up and respect my attempts and decision to leave.

    What is with kids these days? I mean, I'll be 22 in January and just don't have such disregard for people. I mean, these guys were my age and a couple years older. I understand they are going to be vulgar and nasty and obnoxious, but even before I had kids, when I had a nasty mouth, had ANYONE asked me not to because of their kids I would have immediately apologized and changed my language. I just can't believe they had such a complete disregard for anyone sharing the same air they believe and with KIDS at that!

    Should I have got the manager involved?
    Should I had said anything else, or just left like I did? Its sad that we can't enjoy a nice dinner at a restaurant, and we shouldn't have to leave early to avoid such an environment.

    Then again, maybe I'm too sensitive. Yesterday my wife and I went to Macy's for some clothes and while pushing the stroller around some 3 or 4 year kid in a stroller took one of those toy black guns with the orange plastic piece and pointed it at my son and said "Bang! Bang!".. I was livid. I know he didn't know but what the heck is the parent thinking??? Why would she allow him to even play with one, especially if he doesn't know not to point it at people and make such gestures. I circled back around to cross paths again and was going to tell him, "NO! We don't point that at people!" but my wife said, lets just go hunny, though she admitted she wanted to comment to the mom.

    Am I being overly sensitive? It really does seem like a moral degrade as the generations go by.... Are
    these parents even trying to raise their kids decently?

    Sorry this was so long! Suggestions/Comments welcome.

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    armstrca
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    <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="810412714-10122007">Yes, it does. When you turn the A/C on, the dryer turns on. It sucks all the moisture out of the air. When you turn the defroster on, you want the dryer on (whether it is blowing hot or cold air). So, the A/C is turned on - just for the dryer part.







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    armstrca
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    <SPAN class="240553914-10122007">Yes - too sensitive about the toy gun. It is a toy. Make sure he realizes the distinction. Kids playact alot. You can tell him your views about weapons, but you cannot insulate him.
    <SPAN class="240553914-10122007">No- to being too sensitive about the language. <SPAN class="240553914-10122007">My son is now 13. Ever since he was a baby the line was drawn for him. He can say anything I say (but not anything his dad or anyone else says). His dad does have a bit of a foul moth when he is upset about something.







    From: Budget101_@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Budget101_@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Skinner
    Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:40 PM
    To: Budget101_@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Budget101.com : OT: Moral Degrade --- My Peers?<SPAN class="240553914-10122007">
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    Am I being overly sensitive? It really does seem like a moral degrade as the generations go by.... Are these parents even trying to raise their kids decently?



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    Maja Drouin
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    No I dont think your being overly sensitive at all. I think you did a great job, andI also agree thatthe manager should definately have been involved, and if they refused to leave, which I think they wouldthe manager shouldinvolvethe police. But I had involved the manager in a wayso the bullies wouldntnoticed it, simply to avoid any consequenses. I think it is very unfortunate that some parents have totally missed out on what it means to be a responsible parent,they are so focused in their own life, career etc that they have no clue what their kids are doing or where they are at.I also believe those bullies are crying for the lostattention that their parents never gave them, they have no respect for you or anyone else for that matter, that is what it seems like to me anyway.Bad attention is better than no attention at all. My husband and I (and we're not that old - 37-40 often wonder why some parents
    lets their kids get away with being loud and running around in places where it is not appropriate, retailstores, restaurants etc. We areraisingour13 yr old son to be very respectfull, honest, polite etc person and individual. Thanks, Maja

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